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Bralon endorses Sumlin

  • 1939aggie said...

    This is seriously do dumb. I'm grateful these guys have committed to play for us, but I'm sick of them thinking they should/could have influence over who our administration chooses to lead our program into the future. They need to get a reality check and humble themselves. They should just be quiet, be patient and get to know whoever we choose and then if hes that bad then they can leave. It's getting ridiculous. Am I wrong?

    Not wrong just stupid. How is it wrong for them to voice who they want to play for when that is what recruiting is all about, choosing who you want to play for. Secondly you have spent the last3 months talking non-stop about what you want in terms of Sherman's dismissal and you aint close to strapping on a helmet and going to battle for OUR AGS. So if your sick of them get sick of yourself because you felt you had a right to determine if I administration should let our previous coach go.

    atlas06

  • Ollie North said...

    Bralon can go play for some other school if the coach A&M brings in isn't good enough (if it's not Sumlin)

    This decision is bigger than BA, TW, MD, and the rest of that group

    This is a 50 million dollar decision (if not more over the next 4-5 years) when you think about the revenue that could be generated with the right hire.

    Hopefully A&M proves it's not the same old A&M with it's cronyism and back slapping BS. I'm not gonna hold my breath since A&M continually disappoints when it comes to being a big time program.

    My gut is saying A&M is the same old A&M, like the Mike Sherman rumors that no one wanted to be true, the Sumlin rumors will turn out the same and he will be the coach at A&M. I hope I'm wrong, but A&M is a cesspool of incompetence...nothing they've done to date says anything has changed in that respect.

    A&M is a cesspool of incompetence huh? A&M in your opinion is destined to make the wrong choice huh? But we will give up the nucleus (Bralon, MD, TW, Thompson, D Marion, Jacobs, Devall, Marcus Johnson, Pennel, etc.) of our best recruiting class in over a decade so that A&M can make the wrong choice. Simply assinine, idiotic, and pathetic.

    atlas06

  • 1939aggie said...

    jkd,

    none of them have played one down. none of them have taken a class. if we're this worried about their de-commitment then were they that stoked about coming to A&M in the first place? all i'm saying is that if they meet whoever the new coach is and don't like him or what he's selling, then fine. they have every right at that point to de-commit and leave.


    It's not their decommitment I'm worried about. If an 18 year old would keep his mouth shut that would be great. With all this networking, you can't expect them to keep quite when everybody else is rattling on and on. If we'd cut back on the interviews and quit asking them all the coaching change related questions it might.

    Maybe they'll read your post since nobody else is in a position to talk to them about the big picture. Let's hope their HS coaches can provide a little insight and wisdom.

    jkd

  • Whoa atlas:

    1) after the multiple blown leads it was easy to speculate that Sherman was back on the hot seat and that he might be fired at the end of the year because he did not even come close to expectations this season.
    2) you'll never (not in the last 3 months or the last 3 weeks) have me quoted as saying "I THINK MIKE SHERMAN SHOULD BE FIRED." I understand why he was, ultimately. But I feel like I could put up solid arguments both to keep or to fire him and I was torn...will be torn until the next coach proves himself one way or the other.
    3) recruits should NEVER pick a school based on one coach. there's too much firing and hiring away in today's game. I realize recruits pick a school based on one coach all the time, but my arguement is that they shouldn't. it should be about the school as a whole and what opportunities there are for you there. they should be advised throughout the recruiting process to pick a SCHOOL to play for, not which coach to play for.

    1939aggie

  • Girth Brooks said...

    I think you bros are overreacting. Everybody keeps asking them about coaches and their commitments. I don't think they're trying to influence anything necessarily. Just answering questions people are/want to ask.

    This.

    You guys have to expect them to have opinions, just like we do.

    "Failure is my greatest fear. Yours is probably heights or spiders or some silly shit." - Lmart05

    DR95

  • 1939aggie said...

    Whoa atlas:

    1) after the multiple blown leads it was easy to speculate that Sherman was back on the hot seat and that he might be fired at the end of the year because he did not even come close to expectations this season. 2) you'll never (not in the last 3 months or the last 3 weeks) have me quoted as saying "I THINK MIKE SHERMAN SHOULD BE FIRED." I understand why he was, ultimately. But I feel like I could put up solid arguments both to keep or to fire him and I was torn...will be torn until the next coach proves himself one way or the other. 3) recruits should NEVER pick a school based on one coach. there's too much firing and hiring away in today's game. I realize recruits pick a school based on one coach all the time, but my arguement is that they shouldn't. it should be about the school as a whole and what opportunities there are for you there. they should be advised throughout the recruiting process to pick a SCHOOL to play for, not which coach to play for.

    More times that not these guys are picking a coach or a football program. So you better hope they're picking a coach. While we have a lot to offer as a school, we haven't really shown much as a Football Program.

    "Failure is my greatest fear. Yours is probably heights or spiders or some silly shit." - Lmart05

    DR95

  • There's no reason to worry about what these guys say. If we hire the right guy he will be a stud recruiter. When Turgeon left Green and Branch said they might reopen their commitments. The new staff solidified their commits.
    I don't want a guy who just wants to maintain the class. I want a guy who wants to keep the class AND add some difference makers.

    TransAM18923

  • TransA&M said...

    There's no reason to worry about what these guys say. If we hire the right guy he will be a stud recruiter. When Turgeon left Green and Branch said they might reopen their commitments. The new staff solidified their commits. I don't want a guy who just wants to maintain the class. I want a guy who wants to keep the class AND add some difference makers.

    Yep, and when Gillespie left Jordan and Holmes said they'd look around.

    Same with Fran's firing and RC's. Sherman actually improved Fran's class.that class. Fran added OL to the '03 class.

    "Failure is my greatest fear. Yours is probably heights or spiders or some silly shit." - Lmart05

    DR95

  • atlas06 said...

    A&M is a cesspool of incompetence huh? A&M in your opinion is destined to make the wrong choice huh? But we will give up the nucleus (Bralon, MD, TW, Thompson, D Marion, Jacobs, Devall, Marcus Johnson, Pennel, etc.) of our best recruiting class in over a decade so that A&M can make the wrong choice. Simply assinine, idiotic, and pathetic.

    what the hell are you talking about?

    Let me simplify for it you:

    When Jackie was fired A&M didn't go get the best coach in the country to replace him...they took an insider who won a lot of games and not only rode the coat tails of Jackie's success, but he rode the program into the muck. That could be b/c the AD (Groff/boosters) were completely incompetent and didn't upgrade anything at A&M in order to help A&M keep a competitive advantage....So they were passed by OU, LSU, tu, itt, etc

    When RC was fired A&M hired what many Ags believed to be the hottest coach in America. Did anyone actually research Fran? If they had you would have seen a historical pattern of mediocrity, below average recruiting, and parlaying of one good season into new jobs.

    UNM (6 years) - 33-36 overall (21-27 in the conf)...never finished above 5th in the league in five of those years. Had one 9 game winning season and jumped to TCU.

    TCU (3 years) - 25-10 overall (16-7 in the conf)...records of 7-5, 8-4, and 10-1....btw that 10-1 record was achieved LT's senior year....a kid he didn't recruit that he just happened to "Luck" into. So again Bama didn't vet him either when they hired him....To this point he's had 1 great season out of the last 9 years, with 2 good seasons. For the folks scoring at home that's a .333 %

    BAMA (2 years) - 17-8 overall (10-6 in the conf)...7-5 year one, 10-3 year two....parlayed that one year into the A&M job

    So Fran was 75-54 overall in his three stops (.581 winning %).....47-40 in conference (.540 winning %). No background of great recruiting, no background of winning big consistently. Despite what the media said about Fran, if anyone would have vetted him at all they would have seen a pattern, a lack of winning continuity, and lack of recruiting. His 10 win bama team was a NFL laden team full of seniors, all of which he didn't recruit.

    How the hell did Texas A&M hire him? Better yet WHY?

    Mike Sherman - well we all lived through that nightmare. No school in the country would have hired MS the year A&M hired him. No background as a good recruiter, no background as a big game coach, there was just nothing to qualify him for the job other than he coached at A&M and he was friends with people in the AD and BOR. Oh he coached in the NFL and proceeded to underachieve at GB.

    To date we have 4 fired coaches. Jackie, RC, Fran, and Sherm. At no point since Jackie was hired did A&M actually do a coaching search, vet the candidates, and make the best hire.

    So what the hell does A&M do after it releases Mike Sherman, they try and hitch their wagon to Kevin Sumlin without interviewing a single damn candidate. Had Sumlin won on saturday we probably wouldn't be talking about interviews today. Sumlin a guy not known to be a great recruiter, who has had good but not great success in Conf. USA despite being right in the middle of the biggest recruiting hotbed compared to his conference foes. He has Houston and the Golden Triangle at his fingertips. His teams don't play defense and are one dimensional on offense. That is not going to fly in the SEC (west).

    YES, to date A&M has been a cesspool of incompetence. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings but I just gave you proof of that.

    My hope is that Loftin is the man behind the scenes making this train move. Not that I want him to make the hire, I just want him to make sure A&M takes a professional approach. A&M needs to grow up and start behaving like a school that wants to be successful b/c the last 15+ years have proved otherwise.

    I do not want Sumlin. He is a terrible fit for the SEC style wise, and his credentials in recruiting are less than stellar.

    The point I was making at the end was that A&M has to break out of the mold it has formed itself into. Until that day arrives I completely distrust this university to make a qualified decision. I hope I'm wrong.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Ollie North on 12/5/2011 at 12:11 PM

    Ollie North

  • buttonhere said...

    Let Fedora and the Zooker work their magic on the wavering recruits. Let them work their magic...

    Yup. Most of the kids that have favorites will fall in love with the new guy just like the fans will.

    Fedora, Zook, and Wickline would be a strong recruiting/coaching foundation for y'all.

    This post was edited by WildBill71 on 12/5/2011 at 2:20 PM

    WildBill71