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I think this is the most interesting post. There aren't that many defensive 5 stars in general and only a small subset are from Texas. I agree with Jay in that having some consistency and wins will attract more top talent, but I don't think 5 stars are a necessity to achieve success. TU, Alabama and LSU get 5 stars because they are successful not the other way around. Benny may be kind of a downer, but I like that he stirs some s hit every once in a while and gets everyone discussing something.

Everybody that has followed A&M for the past decade knows what Benny and Cam keep saying. Everybody is just tired of hearing that they act like Sumlin is not aware our defense needs to improve and that he hasn't recruited at least 3 5* on defense in his first three months.

In previous threads, Cameron has said that Sherman recruited better defensive players than Sumlin, and basically said Sumlin can't recruit defensive players. Maybe he had a bad day that day.

I agree with you.

That would definitely be more productive. I was as mad as anyone about the Sumlin hire, but he has made me stick my foot in my mouth. How you could dislike Sumlin at this point is beyond me.

Another bone to pick on this subject is what does the OP expect this year as if he would look before he leaps the closest D 5*s for this year according to this site are in Ga or Indiana, the bulk are Fl and East Coast or the West Coast and we have offers and have been in contact with several of these players. This year and a disturbing trend that is developing in Texas is the 5* D player is not to be found in this state because of the Spread and all the best players basically being funneled to the O side of the ball.

Off topic, but does anyone else think it's weird that one of our current verbal commits is posting. Don't get me wrong, Jay you are very welcome here and I appreciate your insight and intelligence. It just seems... wrong or something.

Agree. Just hope he takes everything with a grain of salt. Fans will say pretty harsh things sometimes without knowing all the facts. They may not about Jay, but maybe about other guys he may know. If i was a player I would probably not want to be on a fan board, but since he is I am glad he is a solid contributor and seems like a really cool, level headed guy. He seems like a guy who is going to be a great leader on the team in a few years. Guys like him and Matt Davis can boost everyone around them to play and be better. I'm definitely glad he decided on the Ags! This program is moving up in a hurry!

High school 5 star defensive players in Texas are extremely overrated. Really, the defensive talent in this state is just plain bad if you compare it to states like La, Bama, Ga, Fla, etc. So I wouldn't throw a fit over A&M not signing a 5 star...99% of the talent that gets rated a 5 star has no business being rated that high. REAL 5 star defensive talent does not exist in Texas like it does in the South.... We just don't produce that kind of talent anymore.

Von was the exception to the rule in Texas. Rivals (ie Ketch and Bobby Burton) said he was a bad talent b/c he was a tweener and didn't have a college position. So they didn't like him. Von had elite talent, but guys like him come along once every 10 years in Texas. Bama has guys like him littered on their roster except they weigh 260lbs their freshman year.

As long as people like Ketch are involved in the evaluation, there is going to be a problem. I heard Jackie Sherrill speak one time at a coaches clinic and he railed on Rivals. Said he looked for kids that fit his system, period.