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It's comical how often this conversation comes up. We all miss Randy, but if memory serves me right, weren't the same things said about Randy too?
Hell, I specifically remember being on here before the Nebraska game and Aubrey saying something about we don't know if we can win a game off Randy's leg. Everyone was so worried about that and he sucked and if it came down to that, we were toast. Now he's a a Groza winner and the guy everyone wants back.
You guys are calling for the head of a freshman kicker. Yes he has a job, yes he should make his field goals but to completely abandon the kid not even all the way through his first year of playing is nothing short of insanity. Should we really list out every single player we should have have up on after they didn't live up to their hype after one year? I think a guy in Denver might have to protest to that.
Do I get pissed every damn time he misses? Just as mad as anyone. But letting my frustration get in the way of seeing a bigger picture with this kids talent is a sure sign of stupidity. Our best option is to give the job to someone who has never kicked in a high pressure situation? Dude please.
Call me crazy then. I'll gladly eat crow later.
SEC SEC SEC!!!
I'm not calling for his head... I think players perform better when their is competition. Even if there isn't a competent alternative on the roster, I'd run somebody else out there on FGs until Bertolet walked up to me and told me he was ready to take that job back. I know its not talent, its all mental. He needs a kick in the ass, not a coddling.
I agree with what you're saying. I'm not saying he should be handed the job either. Competition will bring out the best in him. It was more in response in the "he sucks, take the scholarship comments". Coach him, push him and reap the benefits. Don't take the Al Davis approach and fire someone every single year.
Yes, this is the correct answer. Make the kid kick until his leg falls off.
Give him a plane ticket and send him off to work with the coach Randy worked with last off season. Seemed to work out pretty well for him.
Serious question: Do you want 2 kickers on scholarship at all times. We would want 2 punters by the same logic. I'm not saying this is wrong. I am really just asking if anyone wants 4 scholarships taken up by the punt/kick unit.
What is the norm in most schools? anyone know? Does the extra competition really help? As terrifically underrated as the kicking game is, I would think this would be the norm if it really worked.
The true test of a man's intelligence is how much he agrees with you.
I heard an interview by the Chicago Bears kicker (Gould?) this summer at a charity golf tournament. He said that a usual practice day for him is about 40-50 kicks. Anymore than that and the risk of stress fracture increase, and that would mean losing your kicker for 6-8 weeks.
I feel your pain. But calling for him to lose his scholarship 3/4 the way through the season, or draconian practice routines isn't really helpful.
Unfortunately, I think the answer is to put up with it this season, then call for walkons for extra competition in the spring. If he still is having trouble in 2013, THEN recruit a kicker for 2014. Sucks, but can you give me a better, realistic plan?
So that's 120-150 kicks a week? If his form is messed up, all those attempts will just reinforce bad habits and make him worse.
You watch 10 kickers, you'll see 10 different idiosyncrasies. Each and every one of them has their own little things they have to do. Some of them are good, some are bad. I remember my high school special teams coach kept telling our kicker to pick a blade of grass every time after he kicked a ball so he wouldn't look up as he was kicking. If you have bad habits, you're going to keep having bad habits unless you consciously work on changing them over a long period of time. I don't know chit about golf or basketball, but I'd say the comparison to a golf swing or jump shot is pretty accurate. Hell, Sumlin actually made the comparison, so I guess it works.
A lot of schools don't even give out scholarships to kickers. Some wait until a guy proves himself and then give him a scholarship. Some give scholarships to guys straight out of high school. Just depends on the staff. It is very rare to have two on scholarship at a time unless a guy is about to graduate and you're trying to lock down a top high school prospect (like last year when Randy was graduating and Bertolet was a freshman).
And you're right about not being able to kick too many times in one day. If you over-kick, your risk of injury goes up exponentially. You have to practice like every kick is a game winner and make your reps count.
He'll be fine, it just sucks that he's so inconsistent right now. That's what happen when all you have is a freshman kicker and a bunch of (mostly freshmen) walk-ons
No. I also can't rationalize a kicker missing kicks, that's all they have to do.
My suggestion would be to not think of them as football players. They're more headcases than anything else. At least on every college level team I've worked with.
Think of them like you would pro golfers. They should be able to nail 90% of any six foot putt. Do they? For most, the answer is no. Headcases. We all know that Tiger should be the most dominant player for a 20 year span. But he sleeps with the nanny and he's half the player he was. It's a mental thing.
It sucks, but what do you do?.....
In Tiger's case.....Hire the damn nanny to screw his brains out again. It was working until he got caught with his pants down & took that 5 iron to the head from the ex-wife......
With a kicker....I haven't an idea....unless the boy needs some ar$....
Proverbs 10:4 (NIV)
Lazy hands make for poverty,
but diligent hands bring wealth.
I can almost guarantee you that there are atleast 5 kids on campus that can kick from 35 and in
Be sure & give them the walk-on dates.
I am with the optimistic crowd & think Bertolet will mature & be fine.....if not, I will be a man & eat my crow with the rest.
But can they kick from 35 yds and in at kyle field in front of 85K? The physical part is easier than the mental....
I've got to think as loud as Kyle is when the other guys have the ball, the quiet that happens when he lines up to kick is almost as disconcerting.
It's not that practice makes perfect, it's perfect practice makes perfect. Taylors initial problems were & still are mechanical. Failures due to mechanics flowed into problems between the ears. On other posts I've gone into his issues with mechanics. We are at the point where complaining is not going to accomplish anything. It's evident our kicking coach is not up to the task of coaching Taylor out of this slump. Seems to me we should leaning on Bertolets kicking coach instead of taking frustrations out on TB. Keep doin what you're doin you'll keep gettin what you've got, old & still true. Since Randy Bullock has a little free time maybe he could come to College Station a day or two a week & work with Taylor. Some of you guys sound like a lynch mob. Complaining about what is wrong is easy to do & right now TB is an easy target. Get a new kicking coach is where i'd start.
You really want to get rid of Polian, one of our best recruiters?
The kid is a good kicker physically. The other 90+% of his job is between his ears and he's really struggling. You think trying to kick at AL this week will be easier in a tight game? I expect some 4th down attempts this weekend.
He feels the weight of the world, more accurately the hate of the Aggie nation on his shoulders. I don't know what that feels like. I do know the only thing that will fix it is belief in himself. I hope he gets with someone ASAP. This should start with Sumlin and I'm sure he's on it.
That's not what I said. Polian does not have to be fired, just get someone else to work with the place kickers & let Polian keep doing everything else that he is already doing.
Tight Ends and recruiting?....
Polian can keep coaching TE's, Special Teams, & Recruiting. The only thing that needs to be changed is coaching Place Kickers, not TE's, not Special Teams, & for heavens sake not Recruiting. I do not know how else to explain this to you.
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