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One thing that bugs me....

  • ...about this whole move to the SEC is the standard response that I get from alums/tshirt fans from other schools. It's always a version of, "Why would you go somewhere that you'll have a hardtime ever winning?".

    I can't understand why the whorns, or other Big12 fans, would be so supportive of staying in a conference that is so weak that it only takes 1-2 big wins a year to win the conference. Where's the competitive nature in that line of thinking? We should be applauded for going to a league that will be a challenge. Shame on us if we fail to adjust and be consistently competitive. If we can't compete on the national stage in the SEC, then we'd never be relevant nationally, regardless of conference.

    No sense in dumbing it down. To be the best, we have to beat the best. And that's not in the Big12.

  • Kelso

    CoastalBendAg said... (original post)

    ...about this whole move to the SEC is the standard response that I get from alums/tshirt fans from other schools. It's always a version of, "Why would you go somewhere that you'll have a hardtime ever winning?".

    I can't understand why the whorns, or other Big12 fans, would be so supportive of staying in a conference that is so weak that it only takes 1-2 big wins a year to win the conference. Where's the competitive nature in that line of thinking? We should be applauded for going to a league that will be a challenge. Shame on us if we fail to adjust and be consistently competitive. If we can't compete on the national stage in the SEC, then we'd never be relevant nationally, regardless of conference.

    No sense in dumbing it down. To be the best, we have to beat the best. And that's not in the Big12.

    If y'all can barely stay afloat in the Big XII, what the hell makes you think y'all can win in a tougher conference? This is not a flame, just a serious question. The SEC and Big XII both have automatic invites to BCS games, so why would you want to make it harder to reach the BCS? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you can't even win in a weaker conference, what makes you think you can win in a tougher conference? I get that in order to "get better" you have to play tougher teams, but y'all can't even beat Baylor or Tech on a regular basis, but you think you can somehow beat LSU, Bama, Auburn, Miss St, UF, and Arkansas? Um, ok? Who the hell wouldn't want to only have to play 1-2 competitive teams a season and get basically an easy ride to the BCS? It never hurt USC...

    Say what you will about Texas, but the fact of the matter is that Texas can and has beaten several SEC schools while...wait for it...playing in a weaker conference. It doesn't matter what conference you're in, all that matters is how hard the kids play, and if you have a good coach. Mack isn't the best coach in the nation, but he's taken LSU, Arkansas, USC, and tOSU to the woodshed while playing in a supposedly inferior conference. Conference affiliation does not matter in the least. If you win, you move on to a good BCS game. Mack is 3-1 in BCS games, and has proven that it doesn't matter what conference you play in. All that matters is if you can coach or not. The whole "we'll get better because we're in a superior conference" is dumb, and makes y'all look naive

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    If y'all can barely stay afloat in the Big XII, what the hell makes you think y'all can win in a tougher conference? This is not a flame, just a serious question. The SEC and Big XII both have automatic invites to BCS games, so why would you want to make it harder to reach the BCS? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you can't even win in a weaker conference, what makes you think you can win in a tougher conference? I get that in order to "get better" you have to play tougher teams, but y'all can't even beat Baylor or Tech on a regular basis, but you think you can somehow beat LSU, Bama, Auburn, Miss St, UF, and Arkansas? Um, ok? Who the hell wouldn't want to only have to play 1-2 competitive teams a season and get basically an easy ride to the BCS? It never hurt USC...

    Say what you will about Texas, but the fact of the matter is that Texas can and has beaten several SEC schools while...wait for it...playing in a weaker conference. It doesn't matter what conference you're in, all that matters is how hard the kids play, and if you have a good coach. Mack isn't the best coach in the nation, but he's taken LSU, Arkansas, USC, and tOSU to the woodshed while playing in a supposedly inferior conference. Conference affiliation does not matter in the least. If you win, you move on to a good BCS game. Mack is 3-1 in BCS games, and has proven that it doesn't matter what conference you play in. All that matters is if you can coach or not. The whole "we'll get better because we're in a superior conference" is dumb, and makes y'all look naive

    nobody cares what you have to say or what you think. so get the fuck off our board. were off to bigger and better things now. BTW, we look naive? please. Your program needs to take a look in the mirror. Other programs were denied into a different conference because of you, your selfishness, and your stupidity. Move along, nothing to see here.

  • You either have a good coach in place or you don't. It doesn't matter if you're in the SEC or the Gay12.

    Just ask LSU who was horrible for about 40 years prior to Saban, or Florida who wasn't even on the map before Spurrier. Even Bama had quite a pretty decent period of sucktitude before Saban. And if you look at the decade prior to the current one, A&M would have been the 2nd-winningest team in the SEC.

    There's no point in staying in a crappy conference just to pick up an extra win every year. Might as well join the Big East if that's your strategy.

  • And Mack Brown was also completely humiliated in Austin by an Arkie team that was below middle-of-the-road in the SEC that year.

  • Those that disagree with our move based on that premise are basically advocating for the path of least resistance. That is spinless.

  • We are so pleased you care about our well being. Seems like a lot of sips do these days.

    For me, the move was about what's doing best for A&M financially and most of all not having to deal with the sips anymore.

    Nebraska did it. They realized you don't have put up with the bs and we did the same.

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    If y'all can barely stay afloat in the Big XII, what the hell makes you think y'all can win in a tougher conference? This is not a flame, just a serious question. The SEC and Big XII both have automatic invites to BCS games, so why would you want to make it harder to reach the BCS? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you can't even win in a weaker conference, what makes you think you can win in a tougher conference? I get that in order to "get better" you have to play tougher teams, but y'all can't even beat Baylor or Tech on a regular basis, but you think you can somehow beat LSU, Bama, Auburn, Miss St, UF, and Arkansas? Um, ok? Who the hell wouldn't want to only have to play 1-2 competitive teams a season and get basically an easy ride to the BCS? It never hurt USC...

    Say what you will about Texas, but the fact of the matter is that Texas can and has beaten several SEC schools while...wait for it...playing in a weaker conference. It doesn't matter what conference you're in, all that matters is how hard the kids play, and if you have a good coach. Mack isn't the best coach in the nation, but he's taken LSU, Arkansas, USC, and tOSU to the woodshed while playing in a supposedly inferior conference. Conference affiliation does not matter in the least. If you win, you move on to a good BCS game. Mack is 3-1 in BCS games, and has proven that it doesn't matter what conference you play in. All that matters is if you can coach or not. The whole "we'll get better because we're in a superior conference" is dumb, and makes y'all look naive

    You are such an accurate poster child for the whorns...I must ask, have you ever done anything that requires a semblance of adversity or hard work?

    You're that guy who went to Austin Community College because you figured that being in Austin and wearing burnt orange were sufficient means to become what pop culture and your dumbass high school friends told you to become: a Texas longhorn.

    Nevermind that the chicken shit avenue employed by you and a substantial portion of that pathetic, elastic fan base provides nothing of substance with regard to achievement or the sacrifice that's needed for success.

    You are the epitome of easy...Your short-sided, dense attempt at analysis on this subject affords absolutely no fresh perspective to those of us who have an appreciation for everything you clearly don't...GTFO, pussy.

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  • CoastalBendAg said... (original post)

    Those that disagree with our move based on that premise are basically advocating for the path of least resistance. That is spinless.

    Well said. There are many reasons for the move, but Aggies welcome the challenge and competition. A BCS Championship would be awesome, but spending a season playing against teams that aren't intriguing discounts the trip. Nobody gets there often...I'd prefer to be excited about every weekend every year even if we don't get there.

  • As an Auburn fan I am excited about your entrance in the SEC. I watched the conference call last night and think we are all in for exciting times ahead. A&M will win in the SEC. Your coming in the middle to upper middle but things change year to year. Schedules are huge (home vs away) in winning in the SEC. I feel your going to get recruits that may have chosen another school but now will put you first to play in the SEC. Bottom line is you will play the top teams in the nation and bring huge gameday settings new to you and the current SEC teams. People have not said much about baseball as football is king but wow, the rich just got richer.

    Hope I didn't intrude too much. Welcome to the gang A&M.

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  • Kelso

    cole375 said... (original post)

    nobody cares what you have to say or what you think. so get the fuck off our board. were off to bigger and better things now. BTW, we look naive? please. Your program needs to take a look in the mirror. Other programs were denied into a different conference because of you, your selfishness, and your stupidity. Move along, nothing to see here.

    I won't even dignify this with a response. You're too stupid to grasp what we're even talking about.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    gunner03 said... (original post)

    We are so pleased you care about our well being. Seems like a lot of sips do these days.

    For me, the move was about what's doing best for A&M financially and most of all not having to deal with the sips anymore.

    Nebraska did it. They realized you don't have put up with the bs and we did the same.

    Nebraska got their assholes pushed in everytime they played Texas. That's the reason they took their ball and went home. Nothing more than that

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    Nebraska got their assholes pushed in everytime they played Texas. That's the reason they took their ball and went home. Nothing more than that

    And you know that for a fact? Were you in their board of regents meetings?

    You're response is the typical sip response.

    This post was edited by gunner03 3 years ago

  • Kelso

    cameron00 said... (original post)

    You either have a good coach in place or you don't. It doesn't matter if you're in the SEC or the Gay12.

    Just ask LSU who was horrible for about 40 years prior to Saban, or Florida who wasn't even on the map before Spurrier. Even Bama had quite a pretty decent period of sucktitude before Saban. And if you look at the decade prior to the current one, A&M would have been the 2nd-winningest team in the SEC.

    There's no point in staying in a crappy conference just to pick up an extra win every year. Might as well join the Big East if that's your strategy.

    What would be the point in switching conferences if it's just going to make the road to a NC that much harder?? That makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't matter what conference you play in; what matters is if you can play with the best of them. I, personally, would rather have an easier path to the NC than have to deal with LSU, Bama, etc... and keep hoping that the next will be "the year".

    I'm glad that your team is going to a different conference, personally. It will be good for A&M to get out of the shadow of Texas and start a new chapter. It's just BS that every aggie thinks this is Texas' fault when no one on this board has any real idea what went down. You can point the finger at the LHN all you want, but the fact is that y'all admitted that A&M university was thinking about leaving well before the LHN came to fruition.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    Sin Miedo said... (original post)

    Well said. There are many reasons for the move, but Aggies welcome the challenge and competition. A BCS Championship would be awesome, but spending a season playing against teams that aren't intriguing discounts the trip. Nobody gets there often...I'd prefer to be excited about every weekend every year even if we don't get there.

    How long will that enthusiasm last? One year? Two? It's gonna get old fast when the elite teams are putting up 50-60 points on y'all every single game.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    gunner03 said... (original post)

    And you know that for a fact? Were you in their board of regents meetings?

    You're response is the typical sip response.

    Sip? Are you retarded? Y'all are the only fans that come up with dumb ass nicknames for a rival fan. At least try be funny if you're going to attempt to insult us. And yes, i'm pretty sure that's why they left. For such an inferior conference, all the teams that are leaving all have losing records to Texas... Coincidence? Probably not.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    What would be the point in switching conferences if it's just going to make the road to a NC that much harder?? That makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't matter what conference you play in; what matters is if you can play with the best of them. I, personally, would rather have an easier path to the NC than have to deal with LSU, Bama, etc... and keep hoping that the next will be "the year".

    I'm glad that your team is going to a different conference, personally. It will be good for A&M to get out of the shadow of Texas and start a new chapter. It's just BS that every aggie thinks this is Texas' fault when no one on this board has any real idea what went down. You can point the finger at the LHN all you want, but the fact is that y'all admitted that A&M university was thinking about leaving well before the LHN came to fruition.

    Talk about a hypocritical comment.

    You state that no one on this board really knows what happened but then you state the reason for A&M leaving is not texas' fault?

    How do you know what was discussed by the A&M brass?

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    Sip? Are you retarded? Y'all are the only fans that come up with dumb ass nicknames for a rival fan.

    Say the guy who's fanbase has multiple names for aggies.

  • This is the difference. If you are not in the SEC, you are playing for the honor of getting whipped in the BCS title game by an SEC team. The outcome will be the same. An SEC team will be the national champ. Again. You are right Kelso, Texas will have an easier path, but nobody remembers #2 except fans of #2. Also, how old are you Kelso? I think a posters age should be listed. So I know if I am reading the postings of a teen, or early 20-something.

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  • Kelso - Again, I ask of you: Why do you advocate/defend the path of least resistance? I had more respect (misplaced, obviously) for the University of Texas than that. I would expect more out of your AD and your fanbase. Never expected you all to be the type to run away from a fight (again, obviously I was wrong) by stacking the conference with weak competition, and then boasting about it. Weak.

  • Some embarassing responses on here from ags. Good thing Taylor provides good recruiting information

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  • Kelso said... (original post)

    If y'all can barely stay afloat in the Big XII, what the hell makes you think y'all can win in a tougher conference? This is not a flame, just a serious question. The SEC and Big XII both have automatic invites to BCS games, so why would you want to make it harder to reach the BCS? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you can't even win in a weaker conference, what makes you think you can win in a tougher conference? I get that in order to "get better" you have to play tougher teams, but y'all can't even beat Baylor or Tech on a regular basis, but you think you can somehow beat LSU, Bama, Auburn, Miss St, UF, and Arkansas? Um, ok? Who the hell wouldn't want to only have to play 1-2 competitive teams a season and get basically an easy ride to the BCS? It never hurt USC...

    Say what you will about Texas, but the fact of the matter is that Texas can and has beaten several SEC schools while...wait for it...playing in a weaker conference. It doesn't matter what conference you're in, all that matters is how hard the kids play, and if you have a good coach. Mack isn't the best coach in the nation, but he's taken LSU, Arkansas, USC, and tOSU to the woodshed while playing in a supposedly inferior conference. Conference affiliation does not matter in the least. If you win, you move on to a good BCS game. Mack is 3-1 in BCS games, and has proven that it doesn't matter what conference you play in. All that matters is if you can coach or not. The whole "we'll get better because we're in a superior conference" is dumb, and makes y'all look naive

    Texas A&M will adjust. The competition definitely helps come bowl season. I know I'm a USC fan and can't really talk that much trash, but being in the SEC has helped our program tremendously over the past twenty years. We went from being a nobody independant to a team that turns one of the biggest profits in the NCAA. Our facilities have massively improved. We've been able to attract a better quality of athlete and our teams under Spurrier have always been competitive and are finally turning a corner.

    My point is A&M is miles ahead of where we were in 1992. It may take a few years to get up to speed, maybe even less ( I have no idea what kind of talent you guys bring back in 2012). Playing Auburn, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas every year will give recruits a tremendous incentive to play for A&M. I feel confident their recruiting will improve (more defensive players want to play in the SEC because they run more NFL style schemes).

    The whole why upgrade when you can't compete here argument is really a moot point. This move flat our makes them a better program, period.

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  • Well, with a Gamecock, Longhorn, and Tiger already responding, I'll throw in my $0.02.

    I don't use the path of least resistance argument at all (agree with the Ags on this one). What I do think is that this isn't as though you are going from the Southland Conference to the SEC. It's no secret that the Big XII South has historically been one of the toughest divisions in the nation. Currently, the Big XII is on top of the power rankings according to CBS Sports and ESPN. Regardless, over the last decade, the Big XII has been ranked between 1 and 3 among all conferences and at one point I remember an analysis showing that the Big XII south would have been #1 or #2 if it were its own conference (of course that included aTm).

    That being said, aside from incredible venues (it's no secret that Floyd Casey is a dump in Waco), I don't know that the SEC provides a whole lot more than the Big XII especially when you weigh the cost of travel, etc (isn't the closest SEC school 300+ miles).

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  • Kelso said... (original post)

    I won't even dignify this with a response. You're too stupid to grasp what we're even talking about.

    You just did. I'm just sayin'......

  • The problem is people like Kelso fail to realize this was a BUSINESS DECISION!

    College football is a business and when you can add value to your university you DO IT! Don't give me that bullshit line about rivalries either, the Texas schools traditional rivalries more or less died with the SWC. I would much rather get Arkansas and LSU back every year than road trip and have to put up with the cesspools of crap that are Waco and Lubbock.

    Little brother syndrome, out of texas shadow is all just a bunch of message board idiots perspective (which isn't reality). There is a very good chance that when the Tier 1 and 2 rights get renegotiated we will double the revenue we would of earned in the Big12-2-1 (not Beebe bucks but actual revenue). This will also allow us a better opportunity to distinguish our branding as the lone SEC school in the state, and for the love of God our marketing which needs it badly. As Bernie Machen said in the conference we will now be equals in the best conference in America and will not be treated any differently than Alabama or Florida or any team for that matter.

    In addition, the stability of the SEC by far trumps the volatile and ever changing landscape of the Big12. Why might I ask would it be in our best interest to stay in a conference which could collapse at any point?

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  • Kelso said... (original post)

    I'm glad that your team is going to a different conference, personally. It will be good for A&M to get out of the shadow of Texas and start a new chapter. It's just BS that every aggie thinks this is Texas' fault when no one on this board has any real idea what went down. You can point the finger at the LHN all you want, but the fact is that y'all admitted that A&M university was thinking about leaving well before the LHN came to fruition.

    In case you haven't noticed, every team in the Big 12 has specifically listed Texas as the reason they want out.

    Some have options, and some don't. The teams with options are washing their hands of Texas. OU tried but came up short.

    It's not by accident.