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One thing that bugs me....

  • "y'all admitted that A&M university was thinking about leaving well before the LHN came to fruition"

    What a shocker! This is big news! Are you saying A&M actually thought about going to the SEC last summer?

    Too funny. I've never seen a fanbase be so wrong about something in all my life:

    1) The SEC was only interested in A&M if they could get Texas or OU;
    2) A&M isn't going anywhere. This SEC stuff is nonsense.
    3) These Aggies are going to learn. The legislature will stop them.
    4) Baylor has an excellent case and that will stop the Aggies.
    5) We're Texas! We can go anywhere we want! Next stop...ACC or PAC!

    Um, no. Not right on a single issue and yet they still keep preachin' like they know the inside skinny.

    Too funny.

  • Kelso

    buttonhere said... (original post)

    This is the difference. If you are not in the SEC, you are playing for the honor of getting whipped in the BCS title game by an SEC team. The outcome will be the same. An SEC team will be the national champ. Again. You are right Kelso, Texas will have an easier path, but nobody remembers #2 except fans of #2. Also, how old are you Kelso? I think a posters age should be listed. So I know if I am reading the postings of a teen, or early 20-something.

    I'm definitely not a teen, or tween, or whatever they call kids these days. I understand where Aggies would think that if you go to a stronger conference then that must mean said team will get better. That's not how it works, man. I'm not saying this because i care where y'all go, i'm saying this because i think y'all are going about your thinking the wrong way. Could A&M go in and get better? Sure, but at this point y'all will be no better than Vandy and Ole Miss due to the talent discrepancy between y'alls team and the elite teams. It will literally take years for your team to get up to par with the rest. Hell, Spurrier is a far superior coach compared to Sherman, and he's just now getting up to speed.

    As for the Longhorns? With our OC and talent coming in/already there, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't too many problems taking on an SEC team. Say what you will, but before Colt got hurt, the Horns were on there way to scoring and getting up on Bama by at least 10 points. Since he got hurt, it really doesn't matter at this point. But, the point is that Texas can hold their own against other elite teams, regardless of conference (which they've done several times. Your aggies? Not so much). You can hate on Texas all you want, but the truth of the matter is Texas didn't just luck into all those wins since Mack arrived 14 years ago. I'm not gonna say they're going to win anything of significance this season, but i will guarantee you that Texas' new coaches (former SEC coaches) will have no problems coaching these kids up to SEC standards. If you look on Texas' roster, they have as much talent, former all-americans, etc... as ANY team in the SEC. I'm not even being biased, i'm speaking the truth. Your team has maybe a few kids who would start for most Big XII teams (Michael, Fuller, and Jake Matthews. Von Miller from last year). And yes, people still remember #2. I can name every #2 since the BCS began off the top of my head.

    What i don't understand from your fanbase is the hate that y'all have for Texas. WTF is that all about? Are y'all mad because Texas wins? Is it because The University is the one of the richest in the country? I can't help that. It's not our fault that people buy their product, which makes the university money. I'm not the university, so why would y'all act like asshats to us? I understand every fanbase has their assholes, but c'mon, you can't lump everyone in with those people. I get that we shit talk back and forth, but y'alls fans seem to get seriously irate over meaningless crap. I didn't come over here to start shit, i came over here to see what y'all were up to.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    Sin Miedo said... (original post)

    "y'all admitted that A&M university was thinking about leaving well before the LHN came to fruition"

    What a shocker! This is big news! Are you saying A&M actually thought about going to the SEC last summer?

    Too funny. I've never seen a fanbase be so wrong about something in all my life:

    1) The SEC was only interested in A&M if they could get Texas or OU; 2) A&M isn't going anywhere. This SEC stuff is nonsense. 3) These Aggies are going to learn. The legislature will stop them. 4) Baylor has an excellent case and that will stop the Aggies. 5) We're Texas! We can go anywhere we want! Next stop...ACC or PAC!

    Um, no. Not right on a single issue and yet they still keep preachin' like they know the inside skinny.

    Too funny.

    The problem with your statement is that A&M, for the longest, claimed they were staying put in the Big XII. They signed the contract, and then bam, your main honcho accidentally admitted that they were trying to leave before then. It makes it look like y'all are running away because you can't win the Big XII.

    What i can't seem to understand, and maybe you can help us out here, what makes you think that A&M can win the SEC if you can't win the Big XII? Y'all claim it's a superior conference (in football, yes), but at the same time y'all are crying because it's unfair in the Big XII because you can't win the conference? How are y'all going to compete? Are y'all gonna go back to the Fed Ex days and pay players again? That's the only way to actually win in that conference.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    cameron00 said... (original post)

    In case you haven't noticed, every team in the Big 12 has specifically listed Texas as the reason they want out.

    Some have options, and some don't. The teams with options are washing their hands of Texas. OU tried but came up short.

    It's not by accident.

    Every team? Really? Since Nebraska left, everyone thought the Big XII was gonna die, which is why they were looking around at other options. It obviously hasn't, and I don't see other teams claiming to want out. Missouri? Please. They're not going anywhere. Nebraska left because they got out-muscled, and Tom Osborne is a little bitch. Doesn't matter why Colorado left, they sucked ass in every sport. Every team that left, can and will be replaced with another team who has just as much history as the rest of y'all.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    gunner03 said... (original post)

    Say the guy who's fanbase has multiple names for aggies.

    Yeah, but most of them are clever. We don't say weird ass shit like 'M & A', or B/CS-sips.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso

    WithoutRecourse said... (original post)

    You are such an accurate poster child for the whorns...I must ask, have you ever done anything that requires a semblance of adversity or hard work?

    You're that guy who went to Austin Community College because you figured that being in Austin and wearing burnt orange were sufficient means to become what pop culture and your dumbass high school friends told you to become: a Texas longhorn.

    Nevermind that the chicken shit avenue employed by you and a substantial portion of that pathetic, elastic fan base provides nothing of substance with regard to achievement or the sacrifice that's needed for success.

    You are the epitome of easy...Your short-sided, dense attempt at analysis on this subject affords absolutely no fresh perspective to those of us who have an appreciation for everything you clearly don't...GTFO, pussy.

    You sound like you have an inferiority complex when you post stupid shit like that. Austin Community College? Really? It tells me that you have below average intelligence and resort to name calling like 'whorns' and 't-sips'. That shit is gay, bro. I can tell you that anyone who has to bring up school smack probably didn't attend the school that they root for (i.e. YOU).

    I love people who call names on a message board. All it does it show people that you're probably 45 and live in your parents basement, hangs out on the internet and talks shit, because who's going to figure out where you live and expose you for the pussy that you really are? If you're so tough, send me a private message and we'll figure something out, man. I have a feeling that i won't get a message because you're too big of a bitch to actually face someone face to face. But yeah, go ahead and talk shit on a message board, internet tough guy.

    I also love how you visit the Horns site and suck everyone's ass while you're over there, but when you're on your precious little site here with your brethren, you all of the sudden have grown a pair of balls. Don't worry, we all know how you really are, champ.

    "I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existence."

  • Kelso,

    The shit talking back and forth is pointless. We're happy to go to the SEC. You're happy about whatever it is you're happy about.

    Let it go, dude.

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    Every team? Really? Since Nebraska left, everyone thought the Big XII was gonna die, which is why they were looking around at other options. It obviously hasn't, and I don't see other teams claiming to want out. Missouri? Please. They're not going anywhere. Nebraska left because they got out-muscled, and Tom Osborne is a little bitch. Doesn't matter why Colorado left, they sucked ass in every sport. Every team that left, can and will be replaced with another team who has just as much history as the rest of y'all.

    OU very clearly wanted out. They'd be gone right now if the Pac hadn't pulled the rug out from under them.

    Mizzou wants out.

    Tech wants out.

    Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor are fine staying with Texas.

    Face it. You guys are the once hot chick that got herpes and everyone found out about it.

  • And you're now stuck in a joke of a conference with zero options.

    Isn't that crazy?

    Texas, once the most sought after program in the country, has the same options as Baylor in conference realignment.

    Hilarious.

  • Kelso said... (original post)

    Yeah, but most of them are clever. We don't say weird ass shit like 'M & A', or B/CS-sips.

    Zero of them are clever.

  • Also, if the teams that left can so easily be replaced, why aren't they being replaced?

  • Kelso,

    A few points on your post.

    - we are not competitive vs. Baylor? In B12 play, we are 13-2 vs Baylor and 7-0 at Kyle. Texas is 14-1 and 6-1 at DKR. If you dont count our record as competitive, then by your definition neither is UT
    - you guys don't have stupid terms for us? Go over to OB and see how many threads exist about "aggy"
    - you don't care what we do? Then why the F are you spending time posting dissertations on an A&M board.

    Sorry, but you don't have any credibility.

  • I'm going to be as objective as possible about this.

    The last decade has been pitiful for A&M football and Texas and OU are always going to be good programs, although college football is cyclical and they will have down years. Due to the last 10 years, it's been difficult for A&M to recruit, not only against Texas and OU but also OSU, Tech, LSU and other SEC schools taking a player here or there. We were 9-4 last year and saw a HUGE spike in recruiting for the 2012 and 2013 classes so that tells me that kids are willing to look at A&M when they have any kind of success because we have all the pieces of the puzzle but we wont win many of the recruiting battles if we cant offer the kids something different and more intriguing than what they can get down the road in Austin, Norman etc. In other words, all things equal - we dont have a recruiting pitch to win the head to heads with the top recruits in TX. By being able to sell a superior conference like the SEC, we may start winning a few more of those battles. This doesnt mean we start to win the majority of them but just a handful more than we would have otherwise can make a difference.

    Bottomline, there are kids in TX that know about the dominance of the SEC and like the idea of playing against the best of the best. These kids want to go pro and all think they can compete against anyone so we give the kid in Houston, Dallas or San Antonio, who loved the idea of playing in the SEC but didnt want to go 12 hours from home to do it, the the opportunity to be a couple hours away from the house and still get to play in that conference.

    Recruiting is the key and if we do a good job of it, there is no reason to think we cant be competitive.

  • The reason I reference your age is the "winning" argument. In the 80's and 90's, texas did not win much and were not that relevant. Only people 25 and under do not acknowledge those years. There have been other era's of irrelevance for texas as well. Since A&M went coed, the Ags have been pretty good, baring the last decade. The re-emergence of texas and ou lead to that. If A&M has the right coach, they will win. Simple as that. Simple as that for any program, even texas. These things run in cycles. I think A&M is on the upswing, and the recruiting is proving that. When horn fans come on here making your arguments, they are ignoring history. Texas cannot win without the right coach, neither can ou, lsu, or bama for that matter. Just look at their records the previous 20 years before all hired their current coach.

  • CoastalBendAg said... (original post)

    Suck off? The post you're referencing was simply me trying to provide a voice of reason in this mess...In that attempt, I approached the subject as objectively and as possible. Unfortunately, the reference to a moment that transcended any sporting rivalry (the bonfire tribute) fell on deaf ears...I've never seen such a shameful display of blatant ignorance and oblivion to matters of substance and decency. In the end, my innocent attempt wasn't enough to get your egotistical fellow posters to pull their heads out of their collective asses and realize that we're all Texans and still share a common bond.

  • CoastalBendAg said... (original post)

    ...about this whole move to the SEC is the standard response that I get from alums/tshirt fans from other schools. It's always a version of, "Why would you go somewhere that you'll have a hardtime ever winning?".

    I can't understand why the whorns, or other Big12 fans, would be so supportive of staying in a conference that is so weak that it only takes 1-2 big wins a year to win the conference. Where's the competitive nature in that line of thinking? We should be applauded for going to a league that will be a challenge. Shame on us if we fail to adjust and be consistently competitive. If we can't compete on the national stage in the SEC, then we'd never be relevant nationally, regardless of conference.

    No sense in dumbing it down. To be the best, we have to beat the best. And that's not in the Big12.

    This Gamecock thinks A&M will do well in SEC. And Bama or LSU coming to town is more fun, win or lose, than say K-State.