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Here's a hybrid proposal to everyone, then.
How about once the ball has crossed midfield, there is no offsides (kind of like the Blue Line Rule in hockey)? Would that still "ruin the game"?
Clearly you don't understand offsides. It can only be helpful if you have the speed to play the game that way. The fastest players actually don't have to worry about the rule because they can still beat everyone else to the ball once it is played.
Did you watch the USA v Italy game today?
The Italians dominated that game. They were quicker, more decisive and much more highly skilled than the Americans. The 4+ Offsides Penalties had much more to do with our bumbling Fullbacks being out of position than it was a "tactical maneuver" on their part. Because of this rule, the far superior team lost.
Plus, that rule is sooo subjective to a referee's interpretation of where a player was in relation to a defender when the ball was struck by another player 20-25 yards away.
I give Status credit for at least trying to come up with an argument on how it would ruin the game (I just disagree with him). Everybody else's "just because" arguments, fall a little flat.
So now you're changing your argument. At first it was that offsides denies the faster more athletic players the upper hand. "You would find it pointless to let the best and most decisive athletes decide the outcome of a game" Now it is about skill and tactics? I'm not really tracking where you are going with this or what your actual argument is because you are contradicting yourself. Being skilled and being athletic are two separate things. The Italians are both, but even great teams lose to the underdog sometimes. If the Italians are really as tactically superior than the Americans, they would know how to play within the rules. Its like saying a team is dumb in basketball for using a zone defense against a team with poor outside shooting.
Huh? I think you misread my sarcasm in that post you quoted.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JARig 2 years ago
If you don't think messi scores every time you don't watch that much futbol. Your reasoning behind offsides is ridiculous. Yes the goalie can us his hands but only within the box. Messi would school every keeper 100% of the time no matter who the goalie is.
It would be like watching basketball with a guy standing at the goal to lay it in every time.
This post was edited by GettinSum 2 years ago
Do you even understand offsides and how it's called?
If not, let me help you.
The offside law (Law 11) is the most argued-over law wherever in the world the game of football is played, even though its how it
So. You're saying the Goalie would just stand there until Messi was able to control a ball coming at him at 25-30 mph? Without trying to out-position him in the box? You do realize it would be a jump ball for initial possession in that type situation, right? You do realize that a 5'-6" Messi can't use his hands against a 6'+ Goalie in that situation, right?
Say Messi gets the ball outside of the box. It takes him 2 seconds to control a ball coming at that speed with a high trajectory. All the while there are defenders running down to play defense (he's never going to be all by himself on 1 half of the field, in real life).
Neither situation is as easy for the offense as you make it out to be.
I give a great player like Messi a <25% chance of scoring under either circumstance (much lower if the ball came in the box). Still, much higher than normal. But it leads to great one-on-one/two highlight situations that make watching great athletes compete so memorable.
Like the new Tom Brady rules in the NFL?
I kid, I kid.
From IH-35 to IH-10... what then?
It's called through balls homie. People score more than 80% of the time on them. Know the facts. Messi scores every one if he gets a through ball to split the defense and is left one on one with the goalie. Your reasoning is way off base.
Let me help you a through ball is when a ball is played between the defense and the forward runs on to the ball from a run on the sidelines. You obviously don't know enough like I said.
Goalies don't stand a chance in one on one situations that's why they make the rule of offsides. Ask any coach in Europe or the US and you get the same answer.
It's only a through ball because the defense is trying to trap him. With the new rules, there would always be a "sleeper" on guard for such a thing. Because that silly rule would be obsolete.
On the other side of the field, it opens things up for more offense, because there are fewer people taking up space.
This post was edited by JARig 2 years ago
Once again you are wrong through balls are played every game without an "offside trap". It's not called a "sleeper" it's called a "sweeper" look it up. It's not on "guard" its called "defense".
After that your new rule sucks: like Aubs said every rule is but into place to control the game. It also shows "goalies" do not stand a chance on "one v one". Please move on your ignorance of soccer is unreal.
My definition of "Sleeper" is what a football player would call a "Safety". Just because I use different terminology than your elitist ones doesn't mean my strategy is unsound.
Your intolerance for quality change is quite disconcerting, from an intellectual point of view.
Fail...good try though!
Frustrating that you can't understand that nothing happens in a vacuum. Any change by the offense will result in a counteraction by the defense, thereby reducing the odds of success (though the offensive odds will definitely go up from the original rules). Sigh.
But I give you credit for at least trying to argue the point with actual (unfortunately wrong) reasons vs. "because your stupid".
Agree to disagree.
Sorry man but you have the terminology wrong I have been around the sport and played in college. I have played 7v7 11v11 3v3. Some tourneys change the rules for instance when you play 3v3 there is no offsides the game is super quick and has to be played by continuous movement therefore you need 6 guys to play one tourney usually because you run anywhere from 4-5 miles a game. Changing the offside rule would change the game of soccer and therefore it's image. If you don't think having someone sit back by the goal and cherry pick would result in goals being scored almost every minute then you are completely wrong it's just the bottom line. Ask any decent coach in the world and he would laugh in your face if you told him Messi or Ronaldo wouldn't score 100% of the time. Then ask him what would happen to the game of soccer without offsides and he will tell you it would make the game irrelevant. Btw... When you can't tell me the last line of defense for soccer you are telling me you know nothing about the game!
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