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Now that it's all over and we've had a few days of separation, I have to ask...what the fuck was that all about? Seriously, why was that such a big deal? He's a college kid who blew off a non-team, non-school commitment. Who gives a rat's ass? He was a goddamn voluntary coach at a weekend camp. I'm still utterly confused about the whole thing. Is it normal for people to get so upset or discuss something so trivial?
I get that he's famous. I'm just not sure what he did (blow off a commitment) was surprising...much less notable. Skipping a class (which I did hundreds of times as an undergrad) is theoretically worse than skipping something he fucking volunteered for. The whole episode was surreal.
My personal view (hope?) is that he'll have a nice big chip on his shoulder over all the criticism he's endured for his "train wreck" life.
Haters gonna hate.
I simply don't understand this mentality. Called me old-fashioned. If you don't intend to honor your commitment (or even if you aren't sure), then how about don't commit? Some on this board seem to get their panties in a bunch about kids that decommit from a school to which they have made a verbal pledge, but "blowing off" a commitment that someone "volunteered for"...THAT's ok. I wonder where these kids get the idea that a commitment doesn't really mean anything? smh
This is a lot different than that. He overslept, was hungover, whatever. This was a weekend event where there were multiple other pro and college coaches to take up the slack. When a player commits to a school they could stop recruiting other players at that position. If Kyle Allen decommits in this class we're absolutely screwed in the QB department when we could possibly have had Brandon Harris. The manning passing camp will be fine. A recruit decommitting from a school could damage that program for years.
"Now that it's all over"
You think the Johnny Manziel media-palooza is all over?
I guarantee its just getting started.
Well, you're the reason all these talking heads still have jobs.
#1) No one is saying what happened was a good thing. He let people down, including kids. Never a good thing. But I doubt he signed up thinking "Yeah, eff these guys, can't wait to not show up" I'm sure he genuinely wanted to take part in the camp because a) he enjoys football b) he's a good hearted kid and c) he'd get to throw, train, and interact with multiple NFL guys.
#2) He "went out" with the Manning's, Macarron and others. For whatever the reason, he didn't wake up the next morning. He fucked up, which he apologized for on several occasions.
#3) The reason a decommitment from a college gets people so worked up is that it has the potential domino effect. If this guy commits, a limited spot is held. That's one less scholarship the school has to offer someone else. Other guys commit to other schools based on the numbers we currently show. Then at certain positions you might only be taking 1 kid each year. Like QB. If a kid decommits then you are left scrambling to sign a QB who likely isn't near the top of your list. It's a totally different situation than volunteering to help out at a QB camp.
I don't have a problem with people being "old-fashioned" and not liking what happened, but I do have an issue with people being ignorant.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by 1tamuaggie 12 months ago
I get that he messed up. It was a mistake. But just like his other "mistakes," it's been blown incredibly out of proportion. The amount of scorn he's taken from the media and fans over it is not at all commensurate with the transgression. People talk about his "record," buy what really are we talking about? A scuffle over a year ago, a tweet, and the Manning thing. First of all, tons of athletes do the exact same stuff all the time and its never even mentioned, ever. Secondly, they are painting him like some sort of brat or a thug. Maybe he's a brat, but does that warrant so much coverage? He's not in legal trouble, drug trouble, academic trouble, NCAA trouble.... This was a PR blunder, at worst. He also apologized and owned up to it to the public to the extent they is appropriate, but really he doesn't owe us- the public- anything. The whole thing is really ridiculous.
Oh my god. You're kind of a hard ass, huh?
Just this morning, my seventeen year old daughter had an early "commitment" for which SHE volunteered. SHE agreed to help out the counselors at Vacation Bible School at our church. She was tired and didn't want to go. She wanted to "blow it off". Now, what kind of message would I be sending; what kind of lesson would I be teaching if I had given in and let her skip it. I don't want to her to grow up thinking that commitments mean nothing, no matter how small. Just like I teach her that it is not ok to steal. Doesn't matter if it is lipstick or a TV. Sure, the punishments will be substantially different, but both acts are unacceptable.
I agree. Your word should mean something. He made a mistake and apologized for it. He shouldn't be crucified by the media for something this small.
He's the most interesting person in college sports. Supporters and detractors alike can't get enough.
"I like Bears and if you're going to be a bear, UMMMMM, BE A Grizzley"
Holy Shit. Read what you're typing. This is the exact point. You don't want to skip anything you've committed too. Great way to live. But you're blind if you think the blowback from missing bible school will be the same as missing a job interview.
That's the point we're saying. If JFF got drunk and missed a real Football game we could understand the media freaking the fuck out. Be he missed a voluntary camp session.
That's fine dude. Good for you. But did you happen to notice that every major national media outlet devoted countless resources to reporting this supposed major and appalling transgression? There's no way the scale of the fucking response was just slightly off? If your daughter had skipped Bible study or whatever, would ESPN have pilloried her over it for 72 hours? Guess what, kids their age aren't 100% reliable. It's really not that shocking of a revelation.
I'm not sure Aaron Hernandez got that much coverage. It was quite literally insane. Honestly, it was not that big of a deal. He was a volunteer counselor at a weekend camp. In fact it want even a 'deal'. The media uproar was retarded. Period.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by mediaguysf1 12 months ago
This is what is stacked against him:
-Volunteers for a camp run by the First Family of football
-Doesn't show up to it when he had made the commitment to do so
-First says that he went because he was sick but then we find out that he was sent home
-Says he's too sick to go out and help but shows up in Northgate twelve hours later
-Then he says he slept too late and was dehydrated, not actually sick
-His dad decides to lie to the press and say that he wasn't out late but simply overslept
-McCarron didn't "wake him up"
-And just in the past day now it comes out that he was seen on Bourbon Street at 4AM and didn't even stay at his hotel (an hour away) that night
The kid needs to come out and man up for what he's done. He went out, got drunk, slept, was too hungover, and couldn't do what he had committed to doing.
I'm not sure how folks can defend him. Those who are big names in spheres of influence are held to a higher standard than a regular person, it's just the way it is. Manziel needs to learn to be a man of his word and take responsibility (not to mention, live up to the Aggie Honor Code), because if he doesn't, the pressure is only going to increase and his future prospects will implode and he'll wind up on a 30 for 30.
The bottom line is, Manziel is so good that other college football fans want a reason to bring him down and say bad things about him. The media realizes this and are going to pick him apart on anything they can because they know it is what most fans want to see and read.
Oh my god. Man up? Defend him? There's nothing to defend. There's nothing to "man up" about dude. You're fucking batshit crazy. Just because the media blows something up doesn't mean it's newsworthy you dimwit. That's the point. You are implicitly saying that the scale and degree of the media response was appropriate. That's moronic.
We know. Everybody on earth knows he was drunk. But, he's 20 years old and is thusly limited in what he can say. Get over it. He apologized to the proper parties. He doesn't owe you or the media a damn thing. I'll say it again- get. over. it.
This post was edited by JeffAggie04 12 months ago
I've got no idea how old you are but I find it funny that name calling and cursing, because of something you don't like, is your first response.
You are illustrating what's wrong with this country. NO ONE TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. Everything is always someone else's fault.
Famous people, whether warranted or not, garner more attention than those who aren't. This would have been no big deal if he showed up late (or, hell, on time since he had said he would), was sent home, and claimed responsibility and said he was hungover and actually apologized.
But no, he showed up late, got sent home, lied about being sick, went out to Northgate, lied about being sick and now it's just that he wasn't feeling well, and then his dad lies about all of it and says he merely overslept (maybe a half-truth, but as good as a lie). And the plot thickens now that people saw him an hour away from where he was supposed to be, six hours before he was supposed to be there.
Not to mention, he has the media at his fingers and he could have put it all to bed had he just gone ahead and admitted it at the media day. But he didn't and then AJ McCarron threw him under the bus. And now yesterday/today, it comes out that he was still at Bourbon at 4.
This should have been a non-story, but it's not anymore and the longer this stuff goes on, the bigger distraction it will be.
By the way I'm not upset or angry about the media attention. In fact, it was positive for the program overall. There's a reason we're recruiting so well. We're getting immense media attention. That's a very, very good thing. Meanwhile, Texas and the Big 12 remain utterly irrelevant...
My post was directed at the incredible idiocy of the apparent media indignation and surprise over something so trivial and not surprising. It is what it is, I guess. For the media, it's all about reporting what sells. Johnny sells. Just like Lebron and the NY Yankees.
I believe that the media (and media is the original subject of this thread) blowout over this incident was for 2 reasons.
1. the talking heads who in preseason predicted our forthcoming demise for the moronic decision of seeking higher ground in the SEC still have their asses puckered over it not to mention that it's freshman QB won the Heisman who they campaigned against. We simply did not know our place so now they are attempting to put us back there through our most iconic target along with their secondary target Kevin Cobra Sumlin....and yeah as mediaguy said yellow journalism sells.
2. The most important reason due to #1 above is that they are pre-positioning their favorite candidate (name any flavor) for the Heisman this season and trying to take JFF out of the equation...It's a technique of obama style politics in a "let's influence the voters prior to the election" with irrelevant hype.
Not one of these champions of moral rectitude has mentioned one single word on any of the actual criminal acts perped by several current star players on other D-1 teams. I find that fascinating but not surprised.
This post was edited by BuddyB73 12 months ago
" Manziel is “a good kid, an honest kid. He has his heart in the right place.”
Chancellor, Texas A&M
You have zero proof of any if that. Fucking idiot.
SEC SEC SEC!!!
Btown is hoping and praying that all these "distractions" manifest themselves in diminished play on the field. Evidently you don't know one thing about Johnny Manziel. Keep your hopes up, though.
LOL keep putting your head deeper in that sand, bud. I don't have personal pictures, but there's enough out there on the web that certainly plays towards what I said.
How do you know he hasn't already manned up and apologized to those involved? He doesnt owe any of us or anyone in the media shit.
No, you have zero proof of any of it. The Manning family asked him to come back as a counselor because they are still in good standing. He was sick, and you can't prove otherwise. You wish y'all had a QB with a quarter the talent of Johnny.
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