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Dang, out of down votes.
Stop the crying about how the media is treating Johnny. Johnny enjoys celebrity life and isn't crying about it. Stop treating him like a baby. He isn't Vince Young or RG3. Johnny can handle it.
Where are the tweets or texts saying Manziel was out at 4am in NO? I'm not saying he wasn't-he's definitely a partier and it kinda makes sense if he pulled an all nighter and slept through meetings but RUMORS AND RANTS doesn't count as a source. Link some legit pics of JFF in NO. I want to see it.
Longhorns are saying his dad and JFF lied. Give me some proof. It's definitely possible but I want to see the definitive proof. Go ahead.
You sound like an incredible pussy. Keep that weak shit off our board.
You mean the 30 for 30 that Vince Young and Ricky Williams were on?
While we are at it btown, keep going right on along trying to to prove to people what a monster Johnny Manziel is. How he is "what is wrong with America."
But the truth is, when he takes the field next month all people are gonna be talking about is how great he is.
So I suggest you stop paying attention to Johnny right now if he gets under your skin so much, because he is about to blow up even bigger.
Nope, I just don't think that grown men should be calling each other names and cursing as it comes off as trashy and immature. But whatever, I'm not bothered by it, just think that it's sad that many resort to that. Would you ever say that to someone's face, especially if you didn't know them? If you would, you should learn to conduct yourself with class.
And my comment about what's wrong with our country was in reference to being able to squash this before it started by coming out and stating the facts of the situation and taking responsibility for his actions. But he made excuses and so did his family. Ya, the kid is 20 and shouldn't be drinking but he's 20 and he put himself into this position and has no one to blame but himself.
People not taking responsibility for their actions is the reason that abortion is an issue. Not taking responsibility is the reason that kids are growing up with terrible parents and become terrible parents. It's on parents to claim responsibility and lead by example. But people blame others, blame the government, blame race, blame whatever. America has lost its moral compass and now has a sense of entitlement. We need to get back to working hard and taking true pride in our values, that's what America was built on.
He drives eyeballs to TVs and websites. Good, bad or manufactured, people will write/talk about him.
He did intend to honor it. Unless he's Nostradamus or the Apostle Paul he couldn't predict oversleeping. AYRTFS??? Seriously think about what you've said!! He was fully commited and did all that he was asked the first day and a half. Then- ok listen carefully. He overslept. That's hardly non committal! I over slept my wedding day and missed the family breakfast. Didn't mean I wasn't walking down the isle. Once he got out there he was asked to leave. (Mutually agreed or not) So how is that in anyway shape or form noncommittal?
This post was edited by NatKingJoe 9 months ago
Does any of this impact his eligibility or ability to perform? If not, this is all a big sideshow which means little.
Holy hell, man. You can't be serious here.
First- Aggy, faggy, gaggy, sheep-bumper, cult member, collie worshipper.... Any longhorn with the audacity to lecture an Aggie about calling someone names for no reason when they have never even met needs a serious reality check. Your fan base on the whole is the absolute worst, most arrogant, entitled bunch around and is more guilty than most for the very thing you're bringing up over here in an attempt to call us classless. Man, I don't know you, but I have no problem calling you a hypocritical piece of garbage. Get out if here with your "conduct yourself with class." You guys shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it.
Secondly- Are you kidding me? Equating Manziel's actions to abortion, race, and political issues? Are you kidding me with this nonsense? Yeah, Johnny messed up. He's since owned up to it. He is constrained in what he can say publicly due to his age. So what? In reality the doesn't even owe the media any explanation at all. But here's the facts- he drank underage. He's a college student and he got himself in trouble because he drank underage. OH NO, CRUCIFY HIM!! Do you see how ridiculous this is? Do you see that equating is to some of the biggest moral issues in our country is absolutely laughable? Man, you must be just the beacon of moral purity. Please leave our board because we are far too impure to be in your presence, your holiness. Your entire assessment is an embarrassment and a joke. Frankly, I think you'd be better off if you ceased vocalizing this ridiculous opinion of yours anywhere else because you are just making a fool of yourself.
This post was edited by JeffAggie04 9 months ago
Nukeem. You are not making an accurate or plausible analogy with you 're daughter and JFF. He overslept. He didn't proactively decide to bail out OT not contribute. He overslept and when he did show up " they" agreed it best he leave! You make a horrid lawyer. You'd be the anti-Denny Crane. Kuddos to your daughter fulfilling what she commited to and at a VBS... Question if she overslept would you say she was noncommittal? No you'd say irresponsible and immature possibly? But noncommittal. You'd be wrong with that accusation!
Agree if he's out on Bourban street at anytime pictures of him would already surfaced! Somebody would have snapped s shot and placed it on FB or twitter! No proof. If one shows up them it's a different story for sure.
It's not that he drank underage, kids do it all the time. It's illegal but as long as they don't get in the car and drive home, I really don't care.
But you completely missed the point here and it's not worth my time to try to explain it to you.
And I don't see myself as the beacon of moral purity, I'm a broken person who makes mistakes and can't live on my own volition, I just do my best to live up to a high standard set for me.
But the problem with your line of thinking is... Who else is Johnny blaming? He said he made a mistake and apologized for it.
He doesn't owe us even that much. He doesn't have a responsibility to stand in front of a TV camera and say "Look, I went to a bar and had 5 whiskey sours, 2 beers, and a shot. My bad." ... He said he made a mistake, and that's the truth. He said he was sick.. He was dealing with dehydration. That sounds an awful lot like saying "I was hungover." without actually saying it. He's not of legal drinking age. He has zero obligation to tell you or anyone else what he was doing that night.
He made a mistake, he apologized to the Mannings, whom have stated publicly he's invited back next summer. He apologized to A&M coaches, whom he let down by bringing any negative attention to the team and program. He owned up to everyone he needed to own up to.
Why does he need to stand up in front of you and lay out every detail of that night? What does he or anyone else gain by him doing that? Taking responsibility doesn't mean he needs to stand there and draw out storyboards of everything he did that night.. That's ridiculous.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tcmay 9 months ago
1st your taking this Internet thing way too seriously.
2nd our whole point is this is not a big deal in any way. Other schools have had much bigger issues recently that nobody hears about because Johnny isn't involved. Dis he he mess up and embarrass him self? Ya. Is it a big deal not at all.
You, like the media, are just blowing it way out of proportion.
Oh, I got your point. I just thought it was incredibly off base and preachy. Just like your post here. My point is that, why do you feel he owes you an apology or explanation? He's taken responsibility with the Mannings, the camp staff, and his coaches. Does every athlete who drinks underage owe the nation an explanation? What about just the ones who won major awards? Your position just screams "holier than thou!" He's explained that he made a mistake. The story being released is clearly not the full story, but does it need to be? Does he need to implicate his eligibility? What if it was Peyton and Eli buying him drinks? Does he need to implicate them? Frankly, this whole thing is not the nation's business.
Secondly, I would suspect that humility and forgiveness would be part of your moral "high standards." You sure are beating this thing to death and feigning to take the high road when you are using such churchy words as to convince us you're a saint or something. You're a sinner, just like Johnny, and just like me. Would you like it if the nation's media called you out when you made a mistake and blasted your life all over the news? How would you behave? I doubt it'd be much better than Johnny is doing.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JeffAggie04 9 months ago
Okay you guys are arguing over different things. Mediaguys is saying that the media coverage was WAY overboard. There is NO logical way you can disagree with that. He's right - I think there was more coverage over this than Aaron Hernandez, a possible repeat murder who killed at least one guy execution style. I know this is an offseason and ESPN has nothing to talk about, but that doesn't make this any more newsworthy.
You are saying that he should take responsibility. He should. And guess what. He did.
Quotes from his press conferences:
"I was right there sleeping, with a dead phone next to me. I absolutely lived up to it (with camp officials). There was no excuse for not having my phone charged or having an alarm set.” On why AJ didn't wake him up, "t was my fault 115, 120 percent." On his off field stuff in general "Of course, I’ve made my mistakes. It’s time to grow up."
I mean seriously, what more do you want or expect him to say. He can't flat out say, "I was hungover which, while likely, isn't confirmed. But it's something that probably 90+% of underage college students did and he can't admit a misdemeanor.
You don't personally know him, what happened, what he was doing at Northgate, etc. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you think or what I think. Personally, we know jack $hit because we weren't there and if you trust every single thing you read online at being the 100% whole truth than you are a complete idiot since half of it is contradictory. But why a college student missing a voluntary meeting for something he wasn't getting paid for is worthy of being on the news extensively for nearly a week... ridiculous. Shame on us for feeding the media and watching those clips ourselves online or on TV.
Did your daughter not want to go in this morning because she stayed out too late with the preacher deacons and other counselors? When you questioned why she didn't want to go in did she say she "was tired" or did she throw the preacher and other superiors under the bus and lay the blame on them for keeping her out so late? If not then your analogy doesn't make sense.
Also, I can't believe there wasn't a "is your daughter hot" post? Figured dmo would be the one.
Honestly, you need therapy. Professional help. You just grouped a kid's decision to blow off a commitment (as a volunteer at a 3-day camp, mind you) with abortion and America's lost moral compass among other things. Jesus god. Your sense of perspective is very, very seriously off. Please tell me you didn't actually attend the Univetsity of Texas.
BTW, my initial post wasn't meant to be about JFF, per se. It was about the media overreaction to what was an exceedingly trivial event.
He is troll, a walmart t-shirt at best. b-town may want to be a good ole country boy and not a big city frat boy but it's ok. Can someone please remind him of what Vince Young and Ricky Williams made of themselves. VY the QB that never meant nothing and Ricky Williams that would rather smoke pot than make a ton of money. Btown why don't worry about your own Texas players under the spot light and not A&M's. Good bye troll.
This post was edited by Felix 1998 9 months ago
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