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ESPN is waving the white flag

  • Just saw on sportscenter where their Heisman "expert" did a tribute piece on colon klein and finished by the segment by raising the question, "Who will win the trophy and who deserves to win it"....answer Manziel wins but klein deserves it....

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    BuddyB73

  • Unbelievable.

    funky07time

  • Total of 2 PTD and 4 INT in his games against OU, ISU, OSU, TCU, and BU, and barely averaged 200 yards passing

    All against the 20th, 94th, 56th, 22nd, and 120th ranked defenses

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TAMUwake on 12/4/2012 at 9:44 PM

    TAMUwake

  • The sips have exhausted their last favor on this ordeal. The future is bright boys!

    Whitemule

  • the best college football player in america does not lead his team into waco and come back out with a bear claw up thier azz

    see manziels trip to Tuscaloosa to see how its done

    VegasAg

  • Can anybody give me a logical, well thought out reason for not voting JFF. I mean, the numbers are there, the electric playmaking ability is there, he's a good kid. I mean how can you not vote for him? The kid is incredible, and they want to give it to either a boring, overrated QB who couldn't beat Baylor, or a LB who isn't even the best defensive player in the country. I'm honestly so confused about how close this thing is.

    bayareaag17

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  • The kid you referred to came up way short in your teams two losses this year. Manti is the best overall player in all of college football. He is a playmaker over 100 tackles 7 ints but more importantly he changed the culture of Notre Dame and he did it the right way. If Johnny football would was the heisman he would have pulled out those two games and would be playing ND. One game under the brigh lights doesnt get it done. Honestly I dont know how he is even in the running along with Klien he lost the game at Baylor with the ridiculous turnovers. One thing is for sure I want the NC over Manti winning the heisman and the beautiful part is I believe Manti would say the same thing. GO IRISH

    paflyboy21

  • paflyboy21 said...

    The kid you referred to came up way short in your teams two losses this year. Manti is the best overall player in all of college football. He is a playmaker over 100 tackles 7 ints but more importantly he changed the culture of Notre Dame and he did it the right way. If Johnny football would was the heisman he would have pulled out those two games and would be playing ND. One game under the brigh lights doesnt get it done. Honestly I dont know how he is even in the running along with Klien he lost the game at Baylor with the ridiculous turnovers. One thing is for sure I want the NC over Manti winning the heisman and the beautiful part is I believe Manti would say the same thing. GO IRISH

    The thing significant about any of Manti's numbers are his INTs. He does not affect the overall game like Johnny.

    The Heisman is not about changing culture's. It's about being the best player.

    I would Marquise Lee or Tavon Austin over Klein, and definitely over Manti.

    Your loss argument is stupid. So, Tebow shouldn't have won it? RGIII? Bradford? Or a slew of other players? It's not the best player on the best team; it's the best player.

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    aggiechip22

  • paflyboy21 said...

    Manti is the best overall player in all of college football.

    He's not even the best defensive player this year

    TAMUwake

  • paflyboy21 said...

    The kid you referred to came up way short in your teams two losses this year. Manti is the best overall player in all of college football. He is a playmaker over 100 tackles 7 ints but more importantly he changed the culture of Notre Dame and he did it the right way. If Johnny football would was the heisman he would have pulled out those two games and would be playing ND. One game under the brigh lights doesnt get it done. Honestly I dont know how he is even in the running along with Klien he lost the game at Baylor with the ridiculous turnovers. One thing is for sure I want the NC over Manti winning the heisman and the beautiful part is I believe Manti would say the same thing. GO IRISH

    How about you go and censored yourself. Manti isn't even close to the best LB in the country, and sob stories don't qualify someone to win the Heisman. What about his overwhelming three tackles against a garbage Pitt team? How many sacks does he have? Yea, take this censored and shove it up your censored. Oh yea, censored you.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by USMCAG on 12/6/2012 at 10:58 AM

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  • Teo is so over-awarded. The guy isn't the best linebacker or the best defender or the best player in the college football game this year. Just look at his statistics, and look at the team defensive stats. Teo is a top quartile defensive player, and probably in the top 10 LBs this year. He deserves respect as that, but lordy, all these awards? J-O-K-E.

    ckwarren33

  • Well, Nortre Dame is going to get b*tch slapped by Bama in the MNC. I was looking for Manti on the total tackles list and finally found him on page two.

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    dmo2310

  • dmo2310 said...

    Well, Nortre Dame is going to get b*tch slapped by Bama in the MNC. I was looking for Manti on the total tackles list and finally found him on page two.

    I wonder what flyboy has to say now. Maybe when he takes Te'o's censored out of his mouth he can type something.

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  • Teo is impressive and the ND defense is clearly very good. I just don't think they are as good as their #1 rank in scoring defense. Here's where the teams they have played rank in scoring offense.

    Wake Forest 116th
    BC 111th
    Mich. St. 109th
    Navy 84th
    Pitt 74th
    Stanford 71st
    BYU 66th
    Purdue 59th
    Michigan 58th
    Miamu 43rd
    USC 37th
    OU 12th

    Whatever happened to "to be the best, you have to beat the best"?

    This post was edited by psyc99 on 12/6/2012 at 1:17 PM

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