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SEC fans: At what point does the conf say...

  • ..."we're not going to be held hostage by some pissant in Waco"? I have a feeling it won't take long. They wanted to protect themselves as much as possible, but I'd be shocked if they allow the Baylor L'Gators to dictate to them how they grow their conference.

    Sin Miedo

  • They'll get there. But you have to remember that the Conference owes a fiduciary duty to its current members and to subject them to potential liability for hundreds of millions of dollars would most likely place the conference in breach of that duty.

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  • AggieGrad98 said...

    Word is that they have reached that point.

    Thanks AggieGrad98. Good to hear.

    Sin Miedo

  • Seriously they are not going to sue the SEC. That would be ridiculous. They don't have the balls to actually attempt that.

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  • JackmanUSC said...

    They'll get there. But you have to remember that the Conference owes a fiduciary duty to its current members and to subject them to potential liability for hundreds of millions of dollars would most likely place the conference in breach of that duty.

    Thanks Jackman. I'd like to think we were a valuable commodity, but I don't think anyone could ever dream up hundreds of millions of damages.

    Sin Miedo

  • JackmanUSC said...

    They'll get there. But you have to remember that the Conference owes a fiduciary duty to its current members and to subject them to potential liability for hundreds of millions of dollars would most likely place the conference in breach of that duty.

    Won't be hundreds of millions.

    It will be legal costs. Baylor can't win this.

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    DR95

  • Agreed with Jackman. That is what separates the SEC from the Big 12 and why Texas A&M will be well served to join on... it is truly run like a big business law firm. Look at all the potential issues that Slive has suppressed over the years. Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Florida... all of those issues never turned into the circus like USC, UNC, or Miami. Slive is a legal counsel foremost and commissioner of athletics second. The dude knows how to operate. the worst thing you can do is poke a helpless animal while it is cornered (Baylor and their future conference affiliation). They have nothing to lose and will do whatever it takes to take everyone down with them. Level heads have to prevail here. Honestly, it makes no difference whether it is official now or next May. All of the deadlines are created by the leagues for normal circumstances. An agreement had been reached, but Baylor's withdrawal changes the timeline.

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  • That's what I keep wondering. There is absolutely no way that Baylor can win the case.

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  • Aubrey Bloom said...

    That's what I keep wondering. There is absolutely no way that Baylor can win the case.

    From the SEC's standpoint, it is not about winning the case... it is about image. The SEC is in a power of position. A lawsuit opens up public records for email correspondence during the last year. Suffice it to say, that is not what any college wants, much less ones of this stature.

    Land The Plane

    blueblindness

  • Correspondence is already part of the public record under the freedom of information act. Unless all of the correspondence has gone through Vanderbilt first.

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  • blueblindness, the only problem I have with your post is that A&M is not waiting until May to get this done. It's either done now or A&M has to move on. We're not hanging around the B12 for the 2012 season.

    Sin Miedo

  • And I should say I believe that has been made clear to the SEC. We all made out best effort at a clean break, but if you want A&M in your conference, it's now or never.

    Sin Miedo

  • Sin Miedo said...

    blueblindness, the only problem I have with your post is that A&M is not waiting until May to get this done. It's either done now or A&M has to move on. We're not hanging around the B12 for the 2012 season.

    Completely agree... I should have expounded and said that you guys could still participate with the SEC in 2012 even it this drags out longer than anyone would like. Behind A&M, the SEC wants this done more than anybody so they have some ammo to add a 14th team. You wouldn't believe how much talk is going on around here (Nashville) about adding A&M. We have literally had math professors working on a 13 team football schedule for next year, and they have confirmed that there is no way for it to work fairly. If you thought Texas football was crazy about football, wait until you throw in the SEC crowd. We don't do weddings on Saturday around here in October. Anyway, the SEC has got to get to 14 soon. This is a good strategy by Slive. If you and the SEC fight Baylor openly, the image is that we are trying to crush them. As long as the eyes are on Baylor as the aggressor, they continue to look more petty and powerless.

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  • Sin Miedo said...

    And I should say I believe that has been made clear to the SEC. We all made out best effort at a clean break, but if you want A&M in your conference, it's now or never.

    I don't want this to sound like a slight, because it is not. The SEC has to walk away if a potential lawsuit is imminent. I don't care if we were adding Notre Dame, Oklahoma, or the Longhorns... the SEC walks away. It is not worth exposing the current members, half of which are just as or more valuable of an asset than A&M. A&M is joining a group of equals.

    Land The Plane

    blueblindness

  • By the way, thank you all for letting other SEC fans post on your boards. It is pretty congenial between all the SEC sites on here, and we are already checking you guys daily like we do other rivals. Jerks are surrounded and consumed like bait for piranhas.

    Land The Plane

    blueblindness

  • blueblindness said...

    I don't want this to sound like a slight, because it is not. The SEC has to walk away if a potential lawsuit is imminent. I don't care if we were adding Notre Dame, Oklahoma, or the Longhorns... the SEC walks away. It is not worth exposing the current members, half of which are just as or more valuable of an asset than A&M. A&M is joining a group of equals.

    I understand what you're saying, but nobody is going to walk away because of a potential lawsuit like this. The rewards far outweigh the potential for any penalties.

    Sin Miedo

  • There is always a potential lawsuit in any major deal. It's simply ridiculous to think that any conference realignment isn't going to leave angry parties behind.

    You've either covered yourself or you haven't. If you have, you move forward.

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  • Aubrey Bloom said...

    That's what I keep wondering. There is absolutely no way that Baylor can win the case.

    Nobody thinks baylor will win, in fact part of the reason they are backing down is because of a potential counterclaim from A&M and the SEC for fraud and misrepresentation via the September 2 letter. But lawyers can't guarantee outcomes of cases no matter what the odds, so they are taking the time to make sure everything is on the up and up. As far as discovery goes, it isnt the just the written records that would come out in discovery, but oral conversations that would have to come up in depositions. The short is that it could take a lot of time and money that could be spent elsewhere and it would end up settling down the road anyway. Best to nip it in the butt now before it gets to anything that costly

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