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The Fri. Debate: Mike Slive Edition

A year ago a potential move to the SEC was a divisive issue amongst Aggie fans, but this time around it seems like Aggies have much more solidarity about a potential move.

Would you bring Florida State into the SEC?

But SEC or not SEC is not the Friday debate. No, that would be too easy.

This weeks Friday debate is as follows: If you were SEC commissioner Mike Slive, how many teams would you like to see the SEC expand to? And which team(s) would you like to see join the Aggies?

The Candidates

Clemson - ACC

Aggies got a taste of Clemson tradition in 2004 and 2005 when they split a home and home series with the Tigers. Clemson is also, like A&M, a public land grant institution.

Florida State - ACC

One of the nation’s best known teams, the Florida State Seminoles would add another power program to the SEC. Florida State also already has a natural rival in the conference.

Louisville - Big East

How do Aggie fans feel about Oklahoma coming along?

The Cardinals have had mixed success on the football field, but are a basketball power. Their inclusion in the SEC would likely give them a bump on the gridiron.

North Carolina - ACC

All things equal, North Carolina would be a prime suspect for the SEC, but their ties to NC State, as well as traditional Tobacco Road rivalries are going to be hard to pry the Tar Heels away from.

Oklahoma - Big 12

The Sooners would be an interesting partner for the Aggies. Certainly the SEC would love to have one of the nation’s premier football programs, but the Sooners seem unable to make a move without Oklahoma State. However, would Aggies even want the Sooners? A program that traditionally recruits Texas well is probably not what the Aggies are looking for.

Missouri - Big 12

The Tigers would bring new markets to the SEC, and a familiar foe to the Aggies. They recruit Texas, but the Aggies rarely go heads up with the Tigers. Also, Missouri has consistently made it clear that they’re no fans of the setup in the Big 12.

Virginia Tech - ACC

Does Clemson earn a spot in your SEC?

The Hokies are probably the favorites here. Aggie fans are familiar with Virginia Tech, having played a series against them in the early 2000’s, and they know the similarities between the two schools. Both land grant schools, both agriculture schools, and both with proud traditions in their corps of cadets.

Georgia Tech - ACC

Though a great fit geographically, Georgia Tech doesn’t bring any new markets to the SEC, and though they’ve had some success in the ACC, where would they fit in the SEC?

Let the debate begin

Taylor’s Take - 16 teams with Florida State, Oklahoma and Clemson. Why take baby steps when the end looks inevitable. If 16 team super conferences gets everybody one step closer to a college playoff then I’m all for it, and Florida State, Oklahoma and Clemson are the best programs available.

Aubrey’s Take - 14 teams, Virginia Tech. Nothing is inevitable in college sports, and with 14 teams you would still have the feel of a conference and not the feeling of two conferences with a combined championship game. You could play 6 intra-divisional games and then 3 games against the other division and still have 3 non-conference games. Virginia Tech is a nationally recognized program that fits in the SEC geographically and culturally, but also brings new markets and new fans to the conference.

  • GeorgiaAg said... (original post)

    I disagree. The fact that A&M is in a supreme tv market is the primary reason that the SEC is interested. Transpose A&M with OSU in Stillwater and you'll get next to no interest. The state of OK brings comparatively nothing demographically.

    I've read that adding A&M and the Texas market will increase the SEC viewing area by 42%, which triggers a new SEC tv contract agreement that will result in a significant increase.

    Not dismissing that A&M's passionate fanbase and unique tradtions certainly added to their appeal, as well as their facilities, location and ability to compete. Those all played significant factors as well. But its money, specifically tv money, that is driving this bus.

    Markets certainly play a huge part. I think it puts A&M over the top so to speak. For instance if Texas Tech was in college station, I don't think they would be a take for the SEC. I guess what I really meant to say was this will not only be based on TV, any school must have the total package.

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  • anyone who thinks UNC would leave the ACC is a moron. UNC runs the ACC office, ACC Commissioner is a UNC alum and they pride themselves on academics and their tobacco road tradition. VT can't leave without UVA. Virginia legislature forced UVA to make sure VT was accepted into the ACC. There is no way UVA and their powerful alums in the VA legislature to allow VT to leave without them.

    You guys worry about markets but fail to consider the political issues involved. TV ratings are more important than new markets. If markets were the issue every conference would be beating down Rutger's or some NYC's school.

  • NCNOLES said... (original post)

    anyone who thinks UNC would leave the ACC is a moron. UNC runs the ACC office, ACC Commissioner is a UNC alum and they pride themselves on academics and their tobacco road tradition. VT can't leave without UVA. Virginia legislature forced UVA to make sure VT was accepted into the ACC. There is no way UVA and their powerful alums in the VA legislature to allow VT to leave without them.

    You guys worry about markets but fail to consider the political issues involved. TV ratings are more important than new markets. If markets were the issue every conference would be beating down Rutger's or some NYC's school.

    Agreed. That's why I think WV is the most obvious SEC choice from the east. They have similar qualities as A&M, and can bring in TV markets in DC and Pittsburg.

  • NCNOLES said... (original post)

    anyone who thinks UNC would leave the ACC is a moron. UNC runs the ACC office, ACC Commissioner is a UNC alum and they pride themselves on academics and their tobacco road tradition. VT can't leave without UVA. Virginia legislature forced UVA to make sure VT was accepted into the ACC. There is no way UVA and their powerful alums in the VA legislature to allow VT to leave without them.

    You guys worry about markets but fail to consider the political issues involved. TV ratings are more important than new markets. If markets were the issue every conference would be beating down Rutger's or some NYC's school.

    I don't think too many around the SEC would oppose bringing in UVA as well as Va. Tech around the SEC if it were to go to 16. It is a better combo than the Oklahoma package of schools as far as cultural fit and bringing new viewership. Assume A&M, that leaves one more of the many teams discussed on here.

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